The Confessionals 621 — The Coming Nephilim Wars (Gary Wayne)

Field note

Back on The Confessionals, Gary Wayne previews The Genesis 6 Conspiracy Part II and turns from the ancient giants to their future. The textual core matches his other interviews. Nephilim appears only in Genesis 6:4 and Numbers 13:33. The Anakim of Deuteronomy 2 are Rephaim, a smaller post-flood kind. The gibbor of Genesis 6:4 can mean either a giant or a strong warrior. He takes care to give that second option. The second half of the episode is prophecy. Wayne reads Daniel 2:43, “they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men,” as possibly pointing to giants again at the end of the age. He asks whether engineered bodies could serve as dwellings for demonic spirits, drawing on the Greek word in Jude 6, and he labels this as speculation. For the through-line, the episode shows a researcher carrying a taxonomy of the texts into end-times forecasting. Wayne also traces giant lineages by hair color. That passage is presented below as his claim.

Key claims

1. Gary Wayne · 0:24:32 · Documented

   “With Nephilim we only get that three times in the old testament as Nephil,”

   Genesis 6:4 and Numbers 13:33. The same count he gives in Blurry Creatures 419 and Sasquatch Chronicles 1010.

2. Gary Wayne · 0:25:27 · Documented

   “there is one time in the book of Job where giant shows up, but it doesn't go back to Nephilim”

   He traces the KJV “giant” there to gibbor. Editor’s note: the verse is Job 16:14, which he does not cite.

3. Gary Wayne · 0:25:44 · Interpretive

   “So you can accept that as a reference to a giant or maybe just a strong powerful warrior,”

   On gibborim, “the mighty men” of Genesis 6:4.

4. Gary Wayne · 0:59:58 · Speculative

   “We need to be open to what might happen. They shall mingle themselves with the seed of men.”

   Daniel 2:43, which he reads as possibly pointing to new or surviving giants at the end of the age.

5. Gary Wayne · 1:02:57 · Documented

   “An Oikitarian means a dwelling place for the spirit where habitation in Jude one six comes from”

   The Greek oikētērion (“Oikitarian” is the transcript’s spelling). He also cites 2 Corinthians 5:2.

6. Gary Wayne · 1:03:16 · Speculative

   “now I'm into the speculation part, are these creatures from our technology going to be the oikertarians for these demonic spirits”

   He labels the turn into speculation himself.

Gary Wayne’s lineage claim

This is Gary Wayne’s claim, not Expedition Genesis’s view.

• Gary Wayne · 0:26:44 · Speculative

  “But there's this race of dark haired giants and they show up in the Syrian kings, they show up in some of the Greek sections in Asia Minor.”

  Part of a longer run (0:21:28–0:28:08) in which he assigns hair colors to lineages from different heavenly beings: blond and red-haired from the seraphim, dark-haired from “a different watcher.” He traces royal genealogies back to “the dark haired Aryans” (0:28:15). Earlier he says rights “come down from the Indo Aryans right after the flood” (0:16:43).

Scripture and texts named

Genesis 6:4 (Nephilim; gibborim). Numbers 13:33. Deuteronomy 2. Job (one KJV “giant” from gibbor; Job 16:14, verse not cited). Genesis 9:29. Daniel 2:43. Daniel 7. Revelation 9, 12, 13 and 17. Jude 6. 2 Corinthians 5:2. Ezekiel 38. Joel 1–2. Sumerian texts and the Epic of Gilgamesh. Ugaritic texts.

Where it disagrees

Wayne leaves Genesis 6:4’s gibborim open (“a giant or maybe just a strong powerful warrior”). Marzulli (Confessionals 881) reads the giants of Canaan as Nephilim without that distinction. Wayne and Marzulli share an end-times reading of Daniel 2:43. Heiser (EP 34) has the Nephilim threat ended by David. Wayne’s spirit-dwelling question parallels Woodward (Confessionals 889), who goes further and treats engineered vessels as a working account.